I was interested to read the debate on the Parliamentary Constituencies (Amendment) Bill 18/11/16. If successful this would increase the number of UK constituencies (MPs) from 600 to 650, increase the allowed variation of a constituency electorate from the ideal number from 5% to 10%, have a boundary review every 10 years rather than every 5 and use 2017 electorate figures rather than the December 2015 figures in use in the current review. Currently we have 650 MPs but after the current review will have 600 according to the legislation already in law, so in effect the amendment if passed would retain the current number of MPs. Using more up to date electorate figures would add over 2 million electorate into the constituency calculations.
Pat Glass MP moved the bill, she will not be standing in the next election but said "in order to have a democratic system that is suitable for the 21st century, we need to look at ways in which we can preserve the best of what we have while looking to improve engagement wherever we can".
A few points of interest I note from the debate include a very good point made by Mark Harper. "If we are not able to proceed with the boundary changes that the commissions are currently working on, we will fight the next election on seats that are drawn on electoral registers dating from 2000, so not only would we not be including the 2 million people who registered for the referendum and the 700,000 people who registered subsequently, but we would be missing the millions and millions of people who have registered to vote since 2000, and, by the way, we would be including all the people who were on the register in 2000 but who, sadly, are no longer with us."
Another excellent point made by Andrew Stephenson was "More than 40,000 representations were made by members of the public during the 2013 abandoned review. Surely, as Members of Parliament, we should be encouraging people to engage with the process, not trying to scrap or abort it, so that we have a general election based on electoral figures that are 20 years out of date."
He also said "Rather than changing all the rules halfway through this process—or almost towards the end of it—and trying to get this done again from scratch, would not hon. Members be better off encouraging their constituents to engage with the process? In the time between the initial proposals in the 2013 review to the concluding proposals, 60% of all the recommendations were changed. It is therefore perfectly easy, within the parameters of the 2011 Act, to come up with constituencies that reflect local communities and demographics in every area across the UK."
Wendy Morton reinforced this. "This House should accept that a boundary review is under way and that the public are being consulted for the second time in five years. It would be wrong to ignore their views. To halt the process again would be unforgiveable."
Many of the MPs who contributed to the debate merely focused on whinging about the boundary commission's initial proposals for their own area. I don't think that was the point of the debate and they will be better off sending their comments and constructive alternatives to the boundary consultation which some MPs are certainly doing.
I have to say that the biggest flaw with this bill is it is much too late! The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Act 2011 has been law for 5 years so any amendment should have been successfully implemented before this came into law or in the years since then. Whilst I certainly agree that using up to date electorate figures would be preferable to using the 2015 figures, with the current boundary review well underway it is not feasible to change the numbers it uses now and have the review completed by 2018. This aspect of the bill is completely unworkable. At least using 2015 electorate figures is preferable to using 2000 figures.
Apart from the unworkable timescale contained in the bill I would have been supportive of other aspects of it if it had been brought many years earlier. I don't agree with reducing the number of MPs to 600 whilst population and electorate numbers are increasing. I think constituencies are quite big enough as it is. However in my opinion this point is not as important as the fact that we are now into a second boundary review where members of the public are encouraged to get involved and they are indeed listened to! But the last review was scrapped by government so this one really should not be. Also I think the review is very important for fairness to make sure electorate numbers in the constituencies are equalised much more than they currently are. Regrettably I think that means I would rather see the results of the boundary review implemented and put up with having only 600 MPs. On whether the review should take place every 10 years or 5 years I am neutral. Every 5 years achieves better accuracy and fairness but frequent changes may be unwelcome. The best part of the bill which would I think be the one key point worth pursuing at this stage would be to relax the allowed difference in electorate to 10% of the ideal number in a constituency. This is still better than discrepancies we currently have and I think is good enough. Having looked at the numbers implications in the last abandoned review and this one it is clear the 5% restriction does constrain some of the boundaries rather too much for what would suit communities best. There will always still be issues but the 10% would solve many of them without being too unfair.
I always like to hear what my own MP Rob Flello has to say. "The Boundary Commission proposals for Stoke-on-Trent will have two effects, certainly as far as my constituency is concerned. First, a number of my constituents who live within the city of Stoke-on-Trent will find themselves represented in the county—in the rural area—which will break their existing link with the city. They will still live in the city and pay rates to city, but they will find themselves represented by an MP out of the city. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, my constituents and others who live in the city are represented by three MPs, who happen to be Labour but could be anyone in future. That will be downgraded to only two. What message does that send to the people of Stoke-on-Trent?" I cannot see that this is really the problem he seems to be implying that it is. In actual fact, in terms of local authority areas, one of the current constituencies with "Stoke-on-Trent" in the name already contains wards outside Stoke-on-Trent city council, albeit not rural wards, because Stoke-on-Trent does not have enough electorate by itself for 3 MPs. Every constituency will have even more electorate under the review so most or all will consequently cover a larger area, it is not just a Stoke-on-Trent issue. Rob speaks as if he will apply for selection as a candidate in the next election, which I imagine would be for the new Stoke-on-Trent South, even if this is modified in the final proposals, as it would have the most overlap with his current constituency. I would be one of his constituents he would lose (that will save him a bit of work!), living in Trentham it is entirely sensible that this area would be grouped with more rural areas, as some wards must. Rob is a decent MP, I am one of those constituents who does write to him fairly frequently about various issues and he does reply and let me know what he is doing to represent us. I am generally happy with him and if I am represented by a different MP I do not know whether they would be as helpful and attentive or not. But, we should have fairer constituencies with similar communities grouped together as much as possible and that is more important than who a specific MP might be.
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Tuesday, 22 November 2016
Friday, 18 November 2016
Boundary Review 2018 - 3rd blog
In my last blog I presented my submission to the Boundary Commission for England (BCE) consultation and on 14th November 2016, I attended the hearing in Stafford, chaired by Assistant Commissioner Margaret Gilmore, to highlight my key points and listen to what others had to say. There were presentations from across the region but I have only looked at Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent so only comment on these here.
There were a significant number of speakers contributing their support for the BCE initial proposals. Trudie McGuinness, a Labour party member, spoke in support of the arrangements for the Staffordshire constituencies particularly in the South of the county, as being the best possible arrangement. She particularly supported the proposed Tamworth and Lichfield constituencies.
Martin Lewis, a Liberal Democrat, gave support to the proposals. He expressed regret that Haywood & Hixon ward was in Lichfield constituency and pointed out that the West Staffordshire constituency was the least homogeneous, with wards from 3 Local Authority areas but could not propose a better solution given the constraints so considered it acceptable.
Ian Jenkinson from Newcastle-under-Lyme spoke in favour of the proposed Newcastle-under-Lyme constituency. He particularly liked that the proposal largely follows the Local authority area and that it includes the Kidsgrove wards and transport routes to Newcastle-under-Lyme. He noted that the Western Newcastle-under-Lyme wards were in West Staffordshire but well understood and supported this.
Labour Councillor Allison Gardner of Newcastle-under-Lyme Borough Council also Spoke in favour of the proposal for Newcastle-under-Lyme constituency, citing industrial connections and bringing the Kidsgrove town council areas together. She said that although the rail links from Kidsgrove are with Stoke-on-Trent, the A34 road link is to Newcastle-under-Lyme. She also thought it appropriate to bring together the urban industrial areas while the more rural wards of the Newcastle-under-Lyme authority area were placed in West Staffordshire.
Neil Thomas from Stafford also Spoke out in favour of the proposals but would prefer West Staffordshire to be named North West Staffordshire. He didn't particularly like Hayward & Hixon ward going to the Lichfield constituency but did not see a good way to avoid this given the rules. He liked the arrangement for Stoke-on-Trent having 2 named constituencies because of not having sufficient electorate to justify 3.
On the West Staffordshire or North West Staffordshire question I would say I don't have a strong preference between the two. But I do prefer a more general name such as these than one that names a particular town or lists some towns, given that the constituency covers such a large area.
Most other contributions, such as mine, suggested only minor changes. Mine, given in my last blog, suggested the movement of 5 Stoke-on-Trent wards to bring similar communities together and bring Longton and Hanley's parks into the same constituencies as their town centres. Because I was suggesting moving Springfields & Trent Vale ward into West Staffordshire the issue of having a boundary in Oak Hill in that ward was raised. This is a reasonable point but I still think this is preferable because it allows Dresden & Florence ward to move into Stoke-on-Trent South, uniting communities along a longer boundary there with Lightwood North & Normacot. It was also pointed out that Stoke-on-Trent South would be a more peculiar shape, true but I think it is more important for the right communities to be linked. As the constituency is not large in area the shape is less important from the point of view of travelling within it.
Kirsty Bailey from Blurton did not like the Blurton wards being in West Staffordshire. She pointed out that Blurton as a poor area with a lot of social housing and does not fit well with affluent areas like Barlaston.
I would certainly agree that the Blurton wards do have a somewhat different character to other parts of West Staffordshire but within the constraints of electorate numbers cannot see a preferable solution.
There were quite a number of contributions that concerned the borderline between the Lichfield and Tamworth. Geoffrey Hanson from Whittington wanted the Whittington & Streethay ward in the Lichfield, not the Tamworth constituency and cited many links of that ward with Lichfield.
Conservative Councillor David Smith of Staffordshire County Council argued that either Whittington & Streethay ward or Hammerwich with Wall ward would need to be in Tamworth constituency, because of electorate numbers and he thought the arrangement in the initial proposals with Whittington & Streethay in Tamworth was best. But he said there was a strong argument to split these wards so Streethay could go with Lichfield and Wall with Tamworth. He asked for a constituency name change from Tamworth to South East Staffordshire.
Conservative MP for Lichfield, Michael Fabricant, argued against splitting wards but suggested that Whittington & Streethay should go with Lichfield because Streethay is very much a part of Lichfield and he cited links with Whittington. He said Wall is currently in Tamworth constituency so Hammerwich with Wall ward would be better placed with Tamworth.
Jonathan Hall made similar arguments for Whittington & Streethay to go with Lichfield and Hammerwich with Wall to go to Tamworth.
I have to say I found the argument for Whittington & Streethay to go to Lichfield and Hammerwich with Wall to Tamworth very convincing. The Tamworth constituency would be a more peculiar shape but community links I think should outweigh this shortcoming. I also liked the idea to rename the Tamworth constituency South East Staffordshire because it includes a lot of Lichfield Local Authority wards so a more general name is better. But if this were done I would also like to see South Staffordshire constituency renamed South West Staffordshire for symmetry purposes. As an aside I have throughout wanted to rename Burton as East Staffordshire, or if West Staffordshire were named North West Staffordshire then Burton could be named North East Staffordshire to complete a nice set of compass points.
Conservative Councillor Jack Brereton of Stoke-on-Trent City Council gave a talk in two parts. One was on behalf of Karen Bradley MP for Staffordshire Moorlands fully supporting the proposal for the Staffordshire Moorlands constituency. This is a very neat constituency because the Staffordshire Moorlands Local Authority has the right number of electorate to form a constituency. The other part of his talk was the most radical suggestion of the day and requested for the Kidsgrove wards and Talke ward to be in the Stoke-on-Trent North constituency, citing good transport links. This clearly has knock on effects for Stoke-on-Trent South, West Staffordshire and Newcastle-under-Lyme. The result is actually almost identical to my proposal 1a that I produced before the Boundary Commission proposals were released, the difference being that Talke would be in Stoke-on-Trent North rather than Newcastle-under-Lyme to make the electorate numbers more equal.
Whilst this is quite a good arrangement I still prefer the Boundary Commission Initial Proposals to it, because more areas that are of similar character are grouped together, with of course the minor modifications that I suggested.
I did not attend the second day of presentations at Stafford. It will be interesting to see the transcripts of these and of course all the written contributions when they are published.
Martin Lewis, a Liberal Democrat, gave support to the proposals. He expressed regret that Haywood & Hixon ward was in Lichfield constituency and pointed out that the West Staffordshire constituency was the least homogeneous, with wards from 3 Local Authority areas but could not propose a better solution given the constraints so considered it acceptable.
Ian Jenkinson from Newcastle-under-Lyme spoke in favour of the proposed Newcastle-under-Lyme constituency. He particularly liked that the proposal largely follows the Local authority area and that it includes the Kidsgrove wards and transport routes to Newcastle-under-Lyme. He noted that the Western Newcastle-under-Lyme wards were in West Staffordshire but well understood and supported this.
Labour Councillor Allison Gardner of Newcastle-under-Lyme Borough Council also Spoke in favour of the proposal for Newcastle-under-Lyme constituency, citing industrial connections and bringing the Kidsgrove town council areas together. She said that although the rail links from Kidsgrove are with Stoke-on-Trent, the A34 road link is to Newcastle-under-Lyme. She also thought it appropriate to bring together the urban industrial areas while the more rural wards of the Newcastle-under-Lyme authority area were placed in West Staffordshire.
Neil Thomas from Stafford also Spoke out in favour of the proposals but would prefer West Staffordshire to be named North West Staffordshire. He didn't particularly like Hayward & Hixon ward going to the Lichfield constituency but did not see a good way to avoid this given the rules. He liked the arrangement for Stoke-on-Trent having 2 named constituencies because of not having sufficient electorate to justify 3.
On the West Staffordshire or North West Staffordshire question I would say I don't have a strong preference between the two. But I do prefer a more general name such as these than one that names a particular town or lists some towns, given that the constituency covers such a large area.
Most other contributions, such as mine, suggested only minor changes. Mine, given in my last blog, suggested the movement of 5 Stoke-on-Trent wards to bring similar communities together and bring Longton and Hanley's parks into the same constituencies as their town centres. Because I was suggesting moving Springfields & Trent Vale ward into West Staffordshire the issue of having a boundary in Oak Hill in that ward was raised. This is a reasonable point but I still think this is preferable because it allows Dresden & Florence ward to move into Stoke-on-Trent South, uniting communities along a longer boundary there with Lightwood North & Normacot. It was also pointed out that Stoke-on-Trent South would be a more peculiar shape, true but I think it is more important for the right communities to be linked. As the constituency is not large in area the shape is less important from the point of view of travelling within it.
Kirsty Bailey from Blurton did not like the Blurton wards being in West Staffordshire. She pointed out that Blurton as a poor area with a lot of social housing and does not fit well with affluent areas like Barlaston.
I would certainly agree that the Blurton wards do have a somewhat different character to other parts of West Staffordshire but within the constraints of electorate numbers cannot see a preferable solution.
There were quite a number of contributions that concerned the borderline between the Lichfield and Tamworth. Geoffrey Hanson from Whittington wanted the Whittington & Streethay ward in the Lichfield, not the Tamworth constituency and cited many links of that ward with Lichfield.
Conservative Councillor David Smith of Staffordshire County Council argued that either Whittington & Streethay ward or Hammerwich with Wall ward would need to be in Tamworth constituency, because of electorate numbers and he thought the arrangement in the initial proposals with Whittington & Streethay in Tamworth was best. But he said there was a strong argument to split these wards so Streethay could go with Lichfield and Wall with Tamworth. He asked for a constituency name change from Tamworth to South East Staffordshire.
Conservative MP for Lichfield, Michael Fabricant, argued against splitting wards but suggested that Whittington & Streethay should go with Lichfield because Streethay is very much a part of Lichfield and he cited links with Whittington. He said Wall is currently in Tamworth constituency so Hammerwich with Wall ward would be better placed with Tamworth.
Jonathan Hall made similar arguments for Whittington & Streethay to go with Lichfield and Hammerwich with Wall to go to Tamworth.
I have to say I found the argument for Whittington & Streethay to go to Lichfield and Hammerwich with Wall to Tamworth very convincing. The Tamworth constituency would be a more peculiar shape but community links I think should outweigh this shortcoming. I also liked the idea to rename the Tamworth constituency South East Staffordshire because it includes a lot of Lichfield Local Authority wards so a more general name is better. But if this were done I would also like to see South Staffordshire constituency renamed South West Staffordshire for symmetry purposes. As an aside I have throughout wanted to rename Burton as East Staffordshire, or if West Staffordshire were named North West Staffordshire then Burton could be named North East Staffordshire to complete a nice set of compass points.
Conservative Councillor Jack Brereton of Stoke-on-Trent City Council gave a talk in two parts. One was on behalf of Karen Bradley MP for Staffordshire Moorlands fully supporting the proposal for the Staffordshire Moorlands constituency. This is a very neat constituency because the Staffordshire Moorlands Local Authority has the right number of electorate to form a constituency. The other part of his talk was the most radical suggestion of the day and requested for the Kidsgrove wards and Talke ward to be in the Stoke-on-Trent North constituency, citing good transport links. This clearly has knock on effects for Stoke-on-Trent South, West Staffordshire and Newcastle-under-Lyme. The result is actually almost identical to my proposal 1a that I produced before the Boundary Commission proposals were released, the difference being that Talke would be in Stoke-on-Trent North rather than Newcastle-under-Lyme to make the electorate numbers more equal.
I did not attend the second day of presentations at Stafford. It will be interesting to see the transcripts of these and of course all the written contributions when they are published.
Saturday, 10 November 2012
Boundary Review 2013 - Revised Proposals - Final Consultation
The Boundary Commission for England (BCE) following a consultation on their initial proposals and a second consultation on representations received on these, has now produced a set of revised proposals. The final consultation on these is now taking place, for a deadline of 10th December 2012. I would encourage people to contribute, whether in favour of the proposals or against. My submission, endorsing the revised proposals for Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent, is given at the foot of this blog.
It is widely thought that the outcome of the boundary review will be
thrown out by parliament irrespective of what it contains, due to
bickering between the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats in the
coalition. So what's the point of engaging with the review any
further? Well, there are actually a number of reasons:
- This is the first of a rolling series of boundary reviews initiated by theIt must by law continue in the absence of any further legislation to stop it, so we might as well try to make the best of it. Taking part in the process allows better experience to be gained, both by those conducting the review and members of the public participating, so this can be used to inform actions to be taken in future reviews, regardless of whether the current outcome sinks or swims in parliament.
- Specifically, it would seem sensible to embrace the body of local knowledge and opinion that has informed the revised proposals. It would also seem sensible that the final proposals arrived at in this review form a starting point for considerations to be made in the next review, regardless of whether these proposals make it through parliament or not. So completing this review thoroughly provides the best basis for the next one.
- It looks like most MPs are not destined to treat the content of the final proposals seriously and have largely decided what way to vote according to their party political games, without sight of the final proposals. Why should we as local people let such actions stop us making our contributions? No, I think it's better that we carry on and at least have our input on record.
- Perhaps the proposals will actually be passed by parliament. I know that's not expected to happen but party politically the divide putting Labour and Liberal Democrats on one side and Conservatives on the other is quite finely balanced. I expect there is a likelihood that more of the 'others' will oppose the proposals and more rebels within the 'main parties' would oppose rather than endorse the proposals, but there will also be some who abstain or absent themselves. Also, who knows what further political games may play out between now and the vote. If the proposals were by surprise to be passed by parliament, it would be better to have contributed completely.
Despite
reservations I have about the Act of parliament itself, expressed in
previous blogs, I have found the consultation process a largely
positive one. It was not so good that the initial proposals were
produced without local input, however since that point the
consultation has been largely well conducted, despite scope for improvement which I address in my submission. I was actually very
cynical about individuals such as myself, not being a member of any
political party, being taken seriously. Part of my cynicism comes
from experiences with Stoke-on-Trent City Council so-called
'consultations'. In the case of the boundary review however, the
points made, evidence raised and alternatives presented by everyone
were considered and used as a basis for real changes in order for the
revised proposals to better match the wishes of the majority within
the constraints of the legislation.
Of course I do feel particularly
positive because the review, see West Midlands Revised Proposals Report, has incorporated (page 39) almost all aspects of my
alternative proposals (pages 31-33). I
congratulate the Assistant Commissioners for the West Midlands region
for the care taken in consideration of all the representations. The
revised proposals for the West Midlands region can be found as a
large map and as constituency and ward lists by viewing the West Midlands revised proposals annex. Maps are available for Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent individual constituencies with further details in the WM R
STAFFORDSHIRE sheet of West
Midlands revised proposals by sub region.
Response
to Boundary Commission for England Revised Proposals
Nicky
Davis
Introduction
I
would like to commend the Boundary Commission for England (BCE) and
in particular the Assistant Commissioners for the West Midlands
region for running a thorough, inclusive and well reasoned
consultation. I fully endorse the revised proposals for the
Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent sub-region.
I
am very pleased that the alternative proposals submitted by
individuals, including myself, as well as political parties, were
considered. The assistant commissioners adopted a sensible approach,
noting the concerns of all residents, even those not submitting
alternatives or providing limited alternatives and identifying the
key issues which their initial proposals did not satisfy. Then all
alternative proposals were examined to investigate the extent to
which these could address the issues to satisfy the concerns of the
bulk of residents in a way which worked within the rules for the
entire sub-region. Importantly, the proposals were significantly
revised in light of the alternatives presented and the concerns of
local communities. I admit I had been cynical about the possibility
of actually being properly listened to, but that is probably due to
experience of Stoke-on-Trent City Council 'consultations'. In this
case however the BCE did run a genuine consultation although they
were naturally constrained by legislation. I am particularly pleased
that the revised proposals have incorporated almost all of the
suggestions I made in my alternative proposals.
Key
issues
The
key issues raised by a large number of residents were that they did
not wish to see splits in communities with historical and current
relevance such as the core urban area of Newcastle-under-Lyme and the
six towns of Stoke-on-Trent, particularly Burslem, which were present
in the BCE's initial proposals. There was also a widely held desire
amongst Staffordshire Moorlands residents for the constituency to
match the local authority area, in agreement with the BCE's initial
proposals and strong views from areas such as Biddulph and Werrington
to remain in Staffordshire Moorlands in preference to combining with
parts of Stoke-on-Trent constituencies. There was also a desire to
keep Stoke-on-Trent and Newcastle-under-Lyme electorally separate.
As a resident of Trentham in Stoke-on-Trent I personally agree with
all of these sentiments.
I
had submitted three slightly different alternative proposals in the
second consultation on the initial proposals, of which two are given
at the links:
It
is however the following link
(also
attached as a file “BoundaryReview2013NickyDavis3” in
xlsx, ods and pdf formats) which was the one which has been for the
most part adopted in the revised proposals, so this is the one to
which I shall refer in my comments now.
Endorsement
of revised proposals for 'South Staffordshire'
The
‘South Staffordshire’ area (the area covered by the initially
proposed constituencies of Burton, Cannock Chase, Lichfield, South
Staffordshire, Stafford and Tamworth) presented fewer highly
contentious issues.
I
had suggested it would be sensible to place the Wheaton Aston,
Bishopswood and Lapley ward in the South Staffordshire Constituency
and this would avoid splitting Kiddemore Green and I am happy to see
this in the revised proposals. I had also suggested placing
Whittington ward in the Tamworth
constituency and Hammerwich ward in the Lichfield constituency to
unite Burntwood and make use of the A461 geographical separation.
This suggestion has not been adopted and these wards have been
maintained the other way around in the revised proposals. I had also
suggested changing the name of the Burton constituency to East
Staffordshire to match the local authority name but this has not
found favour. I am nevertheless content with these aspects of the
revised proposals as I don't live very locally to these areas and
have not read all the representations relating to them. I trust the
Assistant Commissioners to have done this, taken proper account of
local views, which is what matters most and not found cause in those
views to make the changes I suggested.
Endorsement
of revised proposals for 'North Staffordshire'
There
were far greater difficulties with the 'North Staffordshire' area
(the area covered by the initially
proposed constituencies of Kidsgrove and Tunstall,
Newcastle under Lyme and Stone, Staffordshire Moorlands,
Stoke on Trent Central and Stoke on Trent South).
There were several alternatives presented in addition to my own
(IP/025156 and CR/003080), which are all discussed in the West
Midlands revised proposals:
pages
25-34, including my own alternatives, pages 31-33. It can be noted
that for some reason my attachment has disappeared from CR/003080 but
the submission made can be found within my blog at:
and
I am attaching it again now (pdf file ”NickyDavisCR003080”).
The
Labour party proposals (IP/025315
and CR/005106), had
the advantage of rectifying the splits in Burslem and
Newcastle-under-Lyme but brought the Biddulph area into
Stoke-on-Trent North and the Werrington area into Stoke-on-Trent
Central, which would be deeply unpopular and adversely impact
Staffordshire Moorlands as a whole.
Henry
Parocki, a resident of Wolverhampton, put forward similar but
slightly different proposals (IP/019672 and IP/008834) to Labour,
with the same advantage and drawbacks.
Adrian
Bailey (IP30026) put forward proposals with a great deal of merit, in
that they united Staffordshire Moorlands and avoided splits in
Burslem and Newcastle-under-Lyme and brought the village of Madeley
into Newcastle-under-Lyme which would please residents there. Under
his proposals I would live in his Stoke-on-Trent South and Stone
constituency and would personally be satisfied with that. However
his proposals mean spreading the 6 towns of Stoke-on-Trent between 3
constituencies in a 2-3-1 split and leaving the town of Stoke
isolated in one of them. I think my proposals for a 2 constituency
2-4 split are preferable. Currently in Stoke-on-Trent the council is
planning to squander millions of pounds of our taxes moving the civic
centre from Stoke to Hanley, whilst cutting and closing numerous
public services and facilities. This is deeply unpopular and part of
the concern amongst ordinary folk is the detrimental future for
Stoke. To apparently isolate Stoke further may not prove desirable.
Also Adrian's inclusion of more Stoke-on-Trent wards than I do with
other wards to the South may make the proposals less palatable to
those outside the city. So I think the revised proposals adopting my
suggestions are marginally better.
Stephen
Whittaker, a non-party political resident of Urmston, Manchester, put
forward proposals (IP/025396 and CR/003585) the same as mine apart
from the names of Stoke-on-Trent North and Stoke-on-Trent South being
Stoke-on-Trent Burslem and Stoke-on-Trent Hanley respectively. It
gave me a good deal of pleasure to read especially his second
consultation submission, as I agree with so much of it and see many
of my own views, attitudes and personality reflected there, even
though I do not know him. I found reading his views on political
parties very refreshing. I share Stephen's concern about the
prominence given to political party representations but am glad that
the Assistant Commissioners did in fact treat submissions from
individuals seriously. I think Stephen's alternative names make sense
in terms of Burslem and Hanley being major towns in the city and each
nearest within their constituency to the boundary between the two
proposed constituencies of the city. I would be equally happy with
these names as I would with the use of North and South, the only
drawback being possible dissatisfaction from residents of the other
historic 4 towns. I am very happy that the revised proposals have at
least selected North and South over North and Central as the latter
aren't a very logical pair. I am also pleased that the revised
proposals include the West Staffordshire named constituency which
Stephen and myself proposed. The West Staffordshire constituency is
not a particularly simple arrangement but within the bigger picture
is the best practical option. It is of some regret that Madeley
residents are not brought into Newcastle-under-Lyme, but many of
their objections to the initial proposals were a lack of affinity
with the North of Stoke-on-Trent. In the revised proposals this link
is dissolved and being part of a wider constituency including just a
few wards from the South of Stoke-on-Trent may be rather more
acceptable to Madeley?
In
conclusion I am very pleased that the revised proposals have adopted
the revised constituencies proposed by myself and Stephen Whittaker
for the 'North Staffordshire' area. They address the key issues, to
unite every one of the 6 towns of Stoke-on-Trent in two
constituencies, unite the urban core of Newcastle-under-Lyme, unite
Staffordshire Moorlands and produce an acceptably workable
arrangement named the West Staffordshire constituency.
Comments
on the review and consultation process
There
are positive aspects of the process as well as scope for improvement.
I hope the BCE can consider the following comments in shaping future
reviews.
Provision
of the review guidance, spreadsheets of numerical data and maps on
the website was very good, with the exception that perhaps more maps
covering smaller areas could have been made available to contributors
on which to draw our suggested boundaries.
The
review process started with initial proposals from the BCE without
prior consultation. It would be better if we could be invited for
our initial suggestions.
I
liked the opportunity to contribute at a public meeting where
questions could be asked of me interactively to aid the Assistant
Commissioners' understanding, as well as being able to provide a
written submission. But improvements could be made for the public
presentations, especially bearing in mind that boundaries depend on
maps as well as numbers and are therefore very visual. So
contributors could perhaps be forewarned that a verbal description to
accompany diagrams would help the transcript and perhaps diagrams and
maps provided by contributors could be incorporated into the body of
the transcript. I found making my presentation at Stafford a little
tricky because of having to speak into a microphone in front of me
whilst pointing to my powerpoint presentation on the screen behind
me, the screen position needs to be set up in the forward direction.
Venues could be considered which are well set up for presentations
and have ample and preferably free parking close by.
Whilst
I approve of the publication of all submissions I think there is more
that could be done to aid viewing of these. The constituency
grouping of responses was brought in to help viewing of responses
from certain areas but I think this is still too coarse and would be
better subdivided into wards. A more sophisticated search facility
would be helpful. It would also be useful to have submissions
categorised into firstly comments and secondly alternative proposals
that meet the required criteria, with the alternative proposals
categorised into those for single constituencies and those for larger
regions. It was not particularly easy for those of us providing
alternative proposals to connect with others doing this, so this
process could be aided by grouping submissions appropriately. I'm
personally not party political but do understand that political
parties will produce proposals and it is good to be able to see the
views of our elected representatives. However I don't think the
party submissions should be given a priority place on the website and
would like independent proposals to be given equitable prominence.
It
could be useful for the BCE to provide a summary of responses
received, highlighting key issues, at the same time as publishing the
comments. There are advantages and disadvantages in that. The
advantage, particularly under the conditions of the current review,
would be the ease of us discovering the concerns of others for those
of us who as individuals can not find or read all the relevant
comments. If there are improvements made to the presentation of
comments as described above, this would be less necessary. The
disadvantage would be that it could be seen as the BCE either
deliberately or inadvertently trying to bias further input. Some
balance would need to be struck.
The
next review
At
present it seems that the BCE proposals when laid before parliament
look likely to be rejected, but we cannot be completely certain of
that.
Whether
they are rejected or accepted, it would seem sensible for the current
review conclusions to be used as a starting consideration for the
2018 review. As well as changes in electorate numbers caused by
population changes and movements, that the reviews are set to
address, there is the change in legislation on voter registration
that may produce further variations in electorate numbers regardless
of population. So the current review results may possibly turn out
to be markedly different from what is required at the next review.
The requirement for constituencies to be within 5% of the electoral
quota is a little tight, but is in the legislation so we are stuck
with it. For the next review however, there will be a little more
flexibility in places such as Stoke-on-Trent, because instead of
using local
government boundaries as they existed on 6 May 2010, the current ward
boundaries will be used and most wards are smaller than they were.
I
await with interest the final proposals, in the hope that no further
changes are required in the 'North Staffordshire' area at least.
Sunday, 4 November 2012
Relationship between Central and Local Government
I have sent in a response to the Commons Select Committee on
"Prospects for codifying the relationship between central and local government"
so I thought I would share this:
I just wanted to make a few comments in response to your 'consultation'.
I live in Stoke-on-Trent and have seen huge interference in local government amounting to party political manipulation, particularly by the Labour party, but the system is open to all parties to abuse. I will come on to that.
But first to the idea of having a code. The principle of a code is in itself a good idea if the country were fair, but it's not. For that reason I am not going to get bogged down in commenting on details of the code, as these things are too often empty words to look good and can so easily be over-ridden if the powers that be decide to anyway.
I do wonder why this code is being considered at a time when governance is becoming more and more centralised, especially financially, with less and less resource given to local government to provide services and the paring down of local government towards statutory obligations only. This is accompanied by restrictions on local tax raising powers. The appalling undemocratic academy system of schools, foisted on us by first Labour and now Conservative governments is a move to central control and local education authorities are on the way out.
Personally I'm in favour of well resourced local government, providing for empowerment of properly local people (not parachutists, paper candidates or political party ladder climbers) to run their local areas for the benefit of residents, free from party political and central interference, but that just isn't the road we are on. So I can't really see the point of a code for a relationship between central government and a local government which is being driven out of existence.
A much more useful idea would be to repeal the Local Government Act 2000 which is an undemocratic act open to party political abuse as it does not require any sensible justification for central government to move in and manipulate local councils.
A governance commission was sent in to Stoke-on-Trent, it seems to me simply because the Labour party felt too many independent and BNP councillors were starting to be elected. Now I'm no great fan of the BNP (they don't need intervention as they are proven quite capable of instigating their own demise), but I do confess to being an independent voter, depending on the independent, some are very good proper community representatives, others are despicable. But the key point is whomever the electorate choose, be it BNP, independent or monster raving loony, it's their choice and the way to counter it is in a fair campaign, not by sending in the heavy mob. The governance commission asked the council to look at the possibility of whole council elections, the council agreed to consider this but this was later twisted into they had agreed to do it. The results of a public consultation indicated a fairly even split between retaining thirds and moving to whole council elections. Under the Local Government Act 2007, which is a much more reasonable way of doing things, the council then had a vote and reflected well the views of the public with an even split. But it takes a 2/3 majority to decide on such a major change so the motion to move to whole council elections was defeated. Whilst I favoured thirds, I would have thought it perfectly reasonable if the consultation had indicated a strong public opinion for whole council elections and the council had reflected this by >2/3 vote, to move to whole council elections. I'm a democrat. But the council vote was to retain thirds. That is when the biggest outrageous event happened, central government moved in and forced whole council elections on the city, against local people and against local governance and imposed an interim board on us. The then Labour government used the Local Government Act 2000 to do this, as no good reason is required. This was done by a Labour government to assist Labour dominance in local government. This had the further effect of undermining local opinion by foisting ward boundary changes on us. The LGBCE produced a right mess of mostly 1 but also 2 and 3 member wards, contrary to public opinion. Public opinion was somewhat more strongly in favour of 2 or 3 member wards than single member wards but overwhelmingly of the opinion that we didn't want a mixture, all wards should have the same number of councillors. So we were ignored on that. Furthermore we were told the council could have asked for single member wards only, which they didn't, but would not have been allowed to ask for two member wards only. Where's the sense in that? The new undemocratic system favours Labour dominance because it is easier for large parties to find candidates in whole elections and boundary changes are detrimental to independents with more of a personal relationship with the electorate in an area. It also favours Labour dominance by alignment of local and general elections in 2015.
Above are the facts of undemocratic government interference in Stoke-on-Trent. On top of that there are rumours I have heard, plus I was present at the local election count in 2011 though rules do not permit me discussing what I saw there. There is talk of irregularities with the postal votes, to favour Labour. I have also heard of usual polling stations especially in non-Labour voting areas being closed to the confusion of some of the electorate and forcing them to travel to other polling stations further away. There were address confusions where some electorate did not vote in the ballot that actually applied to the ward they lived in. There was lack of clarity and much speculation over whether at least one Labour candidate and likely others were actually eligible to stand for election. I have no proof of these so make no allegations, none of the rumours may be true, but I have seen no investigations and it just doesn't inspire confidence when such rumours abound, especially when they sit on top of factual central government interference.
So, if you are going to codify the relationship between central and local government, don't just go through the motions or do it for spin purposes, actually mean it!
Some other points to make which may be further off topic, but I'll have my say anyway. I think we should do away with cabinet systems in local government in favour of committee systems where all councillors have equitable roles and equal financial reward. This helps to avoid their votes being 'bought' and is more democratic so every ordinary person's elected councillor gets a say in the decisions of council. I also think we should have STV at local council elections. This would encourage any number of local representatives to stand for election and be in with a proper chance and would also achieve election of the 'best fit' candidate to the local views. But then I'm simply a believer in proper representative democracy rather than party politics.
Please include my contribution in your consultation process.
Monday, 7 May 2012
Boundary Review 2013 - second consultation
The deadline for the Boundary Commission for England (BCE) consultation on representations received on the initial proposals
was on 3rd April. I did
submit a response to this. Time has not
been on my side for blogging though, but now I reproduce my consultation
response, followed by other miscellaneous comments just for the blog, below,
specifying relevant Unique Reference Numbers (URNs). This blog follows previous blogs; 1, 2, 3, 4.
Other comments
BCE second consultation - response by Nicky Davis
I
wish to make a broad ranging comment rather than comments attached to specific
URNs, so I have just picked the Stafford transcript (URN 30029) as a convenient
entry point, as I spoke there as well as making a written contribution (URN25156) and a subsequent comment (BCE/CR/000313). I have submitted these 3 slightly different
proposals for the Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent sub-region, given in the
spreadsheets:
The
key points are not to split any of the 6 towns of Stoke-on-Trent and keep them
all within two constituencies Stoke-on-Trent North and Stoke-on-Trent South,
and keep most of Newcastle-under-Lyme Borough within a constituency of the same
name. My own area of Trentham,
Stoke-on-Trent, is amongst areas I place in a constituency I call West
Staffordshire in order to facilitate this.
The only difference in the 3 spreadsheets above is in the choice of
which Newcastle-under-Lyme Borough wards to place in West Staffordshire to make
the numbers work. I choose rural wards
of Madeley and Loggerheads and Whitmore in all cases but in addition choose
either Seabridge and Clayton or Halmerend and Audley and Bignall End or
Seabridge and Keele. All these work
though I marginally prefer the last one because of strength of links between
Keele and Madeley.
I am pleased that all comments are published by
the BCE but I am disappointed with the way they are presented for the following
reasons:
- The 3
main political party responses are highlighted, leaving me to wonder
whether the responses from ordinary people are being taken seriously
enough.
- The category of ‘ordinary’ responses is too coarse, even after the
late publication of response URNs by current constituency. A comprehensive viewing for a given
area is too cumbersome.
- It would have been helpful if a report presenting the key points of respondents regarding particular geographical areas had been published. Indeed if these responses are being seriously considered, such an analysis must be done and as no analysis is presented this adds to my doubts about ordinary people being taken seriously. I would strongly recommend that in future reviews such an analysis is presented and that responses are tabulated by ward rather than just by constituency, to allow responses from particularly contentious areas to be easily located.
I generated a spreadsheet using the BCE one but
providing URNs for the current Staffordshire and Stoke-on-Trent sub-region
constituencies in separate sheets. I
also corrected a few mistakes.
I have read the contributions listed for the 3
current Stoke-on-Trent constituencies.
The response from Stoke-on-Trent South was very sparse,
only two responses apart from my own.
Ron Elikowski from Blurton (URN 4194) agrees with the BCE but does not
elaborate. Eric Kelsall from Trentham
(URN 6621) makes comments on Newcastle-under-Lyme rather than Stoke-on-Trent.
For Stoke-on-Trent Central there are some general
disagreements with the review process and some respondents comment on
Newcastle-under-Lyme rather than Stoke-on-Trent. Nicola Bishop (URN 17354) and Tristram Hunt (URN 22467) wish for
Stoke-on-Trent and Newcastle-under-Lyme to be separate. My contribution does this to a larger extent
than the BCE initial proposal does.
Mohammed Pervez for Stoke-on-Trent City Council (URN 22190) is one of
several responses that object to the reduction in MPs. I agree, but I find it odd and inconsistent
of Mohammed Pervez to object to this, given that it was his Labour party former
government that applied the same treatment when they imposed a reduction in the
number of councillors on Stoke-on-Trent.
Mohammed Pervez objects to the splitting of Burslem in two. I agree with him on this point and my
contribution solves this. Denise
Johnson (URN 19842) makes an interesting point, agreeing that Bagnall should be
in Staffordshire Moorlands, as proposed by the BCE. She lives nearby in Light Oaks in Stoke-on-Trent and presents her
scathing view of Stoke-on-Trent City Council, concluding that: “I am disgusted
to say I live in Stoke-on-Trent and if Staffordshire Moorlands would have Light
Oaks back again I would be pleased and please for everyone’s sake please keep
Bagnall Parish in the Staffordshire Moorlands”!
There are more responses for Stoke-on-Trent North. These clearly show objections to splitting
Burslem in two and cite the current and historical importance of this ‘mother’
town of the 6 towns of Stoke-on-Trent.
Some responses regret loss of the constituency name of Stoke-on-Trent
North. I agree and keep North and South
in my contribution, losing Central.
Many of the responses highlight a lack of commonality with areas such as
Madeley, although links to Kidsgrove and some other Northern wards of
Newcastle-under-Lyme Borough seem more acceptable. As I have not had time to look at the Newcastle-under-Lyme
responses I cannot draw too many conclusions, although I have looked at the
Stone responses and it is clear that residents in Madeley also think there is
no commonality with Northern wards of Stoke-on-Trent. There are comments for and against including Biddulph within
Stoke-on-Trent North, more for, but I have not looked at what residents of
Biddulph might think and personally I agree with the neat and appropriate BCE
proposal for Staffordshire Moorlands.
In the absence of any analysis of responses by
BCE and without time to read the Newcastle-under-Lyme responses, I am loath to
make any further suggestions than those I have already made which address most
of the key points made by other Stoke-on-Trent respondents and consider knock
on effects and provide solutions which work for the whole Staffordshire and
Stoke-on-Trent sub-region. If I try to
place Madeley within Newcastle-under-Lyme constituency for example, by knock on
effect it adversely affects the arrangement of the Stoke-on-Trent
constituencies. The main reason for
this difficulty is the large 2010 Stoke-on-Trent wards used as building blocks
by the BCE under strong direction from the act of parliament and the
requirement of that act to work within numerical constraints that are in my
opinion too tight. This problem will be
reduced at the next review because the 2011 Stoke-on-Trent wards will be used,
most of which are smaller.
Other comments
As
explained above, it is difficult with the way responses were presented to get
an overall picture of views. I read the
responses for all Stoke-on-Trent constituencies and Stone. I didn’t read the Newcastle-under-Lyme ones,
not because they aren’t important, just because there were so many, an indication
that they are indeed important! So my
comments merely include selected ‘highlights’.
A
huge number of the Stone responses did not want Newcastle-under-Lyme
split. There were however a few who
argued in favour of the BCE proposal to link Newcastle-under-Lyme and Stone,
but for rather odd reasons. For example
Evan Jones (URN 12509) from Barlaston cites the A34 link and the University
Hospital of North Staffordshire (UHNS), where Neill Smith (URN 12946) from
Stone says his son was born. Jill Piggott
(URN 13792), from Walton, Roger Barnard (URN 13834) from Fulford and
Clive Barker (URN 17661) and Glennys Barker (URN 17666) from Blythe Bridge also
mention the hospital, travel links and schools. But the UHNS is in Stoke-on-Trent Central constituency and the
A34 goes through Stoke-on-Trent South constituency before it gets to
Newcastle-under-Lyme. As for schools, I
would have thought the majority of students go to schools more local to
themselves.
There
is a little Bill Cash MP fan club in Cresswell. Lindon Horleston (URN 16939) would be sorry to lose Bill Cash and
wants to keep the Stone constituency.
Jaqui Leach (URN 17340) wants Checkley, Tean and Alton to remain in
Stone. She says about Bill Cash; “I
voted for him in the last election because of his hard work, good reputation
and my trust in what he does”. However
B Woodward (URN 19895) from Cheadle refers to Bill Cash retiring at the next
election.
A
number of Stone respondents are less than complimentary about
Stoke-on-Trent. John Dale (URN 609)
from Rough Close does not see the link between Stone and Newcastle-under-Lyme
but would rather this than “the awful Stoke-on-Trent”. Mr and Mrs Wilkes (URN 21279) from Madeley
say “Stoke-on-Trent has made a mess of all they have been involved with in the
recent past” and cite land sales, Ceramica and the cultural quarter. Linda Washington (URN 16600) from Blythe
Bridge would “strongly disagree with any proposal put forward by local
councillors in the Stoke-on-Trent and Newcastle area”! B Woodward (URN 19895) presents a
particularly scathing account that says: “No-one in the Staffordshire Moorlands
with the remotest modicom of common sense would wish to be part of
Stoke-on-Trent! In my life-time of 72
years I have seen the City destroyed piece by piece without any intervention or
support from members of parliament.
Mines were closed; the pottery industry decimated; and now the city is
being laid derelict by so-called Housing Regeneration!!!” It goes on and is well worth a read in its
entirety.
I’m
not a great fan of political parties but as contributions from the
Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties are highlighted by the BCE
and I have read the Stafford transcripts (I could only attend at Stafford for a
short time) that contain a lot from political party representatives, I make
some comment. The references I give are
to the Stafford transcripts, not the party proposals and are in the form (N,M)
where N is 1 or 2 corresponding to the day and M is the page number.
The
Conservative approach seems to be to agree almost entirely with the BCE initial
proposals. Karen Bradeley, MP for
Staffordshire Moorlands (1,32) talked positively about matching the
constituency with the district council and the strong rural and industrial
identity with the Moorlands that for example Biddulph, Werrington and Alton
have. She said including Cheadle in the
constituency would be welcome. She said
the proposals for Newcastle-under-Lyme reduce the split between 4
constituencies to 2. I can see her point
on that but the problem is that the proposed split is too detrimental to
community identity, which I think is more important. Cllr Stephen Ellis for Cheadle West (2,89) supported
the BCE proposals, saying the people of Cheadle want to return home as they are
not part of Stone. Cllr Ian Lawson for
Biddulph North (2,59) explained that Biddulph has 10 strong residents’
associations and everybody seems happy with the BCE proposals. He said people in Biddulph do not want to be
“thrown in at the deep end with Stoke, of all places” “where over the years
there’s been a reputation of Stoke ignoring the people, mainly by their elected
representatives”. Cllr Mark Holland for Westlands (2,4)
supported the BCE initial proposals. Ms
Diana Reece (2,38), chair of Tamworth Conservative Association, welcomed
Hammerwich ward to the constituency. Personally I think it would be better placed in Lichfield, but more important is what the people there think. Mr Rob Hayward (2,25) from London,
representing the Conservative party, talked about numbers of local authorities
in a constituency and numbers of constituencies in a local authority. He spoke in favour of the BCE initial
proposals, especially for Staffordshire Moorlands. He did however mention my representation! He said “I think she gave some interesting
thoughts. I would not say whether I
commend them or not but I thought they were interesting thoughts, particularly
in terms of trying to link the historic towns of Stoke-on-Trent, as I
understand them, while taking the part of Stoke-on-Trent that she saw as the
more recent element out into a Stone constituency.” Well, I’ll take that as a compliment, I expect it’s the closest
he could get to saying he liked my proposals, given that he needs to support
the party line.
The
Labour proposals include some important points that I agree with, such as
keeping Burslem together and keeping much of Newcastle-under-Lyme
together. But where I disagree is that
they worsen the boundaries further afield, especially by taking Biddulph and
Werrington out of Staffordshire Moorlands.
I doubt that this would be popular in those areas. Contributions were made by Joan Walley, MP
for Stoke-on-Trent North (1,22) and Paul Farrelly, MP for Newcastle-under-Lyme
(2,39). I talked briefly to Paul
Farrelly about their proposals at Stafford.
Paul Farrelly mentioned in his talk the 3 dales project in Newcastle-under-Lyme;
Apedale, Lymedale and Silverdale.
Having been to the new park being landscaped in Silverdale, I am
impressed with it. Many other Labour
politicians also talked about their proposals. Stoke-on-Trent councillors who
spoke particularly objected to the BCE splitting of Burslem. Cllr Alan Dutton for Burslem Central (1,29)
gave a slightly confusing presentation as he said Stoke-on-Trent North should
not gain any Newcastle Borough wards then wanted to include Newchapel. Cllr Mohammed Pervez for Moorcroft (1,66)
caused even more confusion. Even the
assistant commissioner seemed to get exasperated, saying “But I wondered, do
you know what the Labour party proposals are?”
Cllr Joy Garner for Burslem Park (2,16) however gave quite a good
description of how people in Stoke-on-Trent, especially Burslem, feel about
their community and history, admitting that people are parochial. Cllr Paul Shotton for Fenton East (2,36)
made some economic observations. CllrTrevor Hambleton for Bradwell reported that on 19/10/11 Newcaste-under-Lyme
Borough Council passed a motion to reject the BCE proposals because of the
splitting of Newcastle-under-Lyme. Mr
Michael Brereton (2,68) provided community based arguments in support of the
Labour proposal. He mentioned a
proposal in the early 1990’s to form a unitary authority of
Newcastle-under-Lyme and Stoke-on-Trent, to which there was much
opposition. He said “the population
didn’t actually turn out in smocks with pitchforks, but they got very close to
it”! Cllr Gareth Snell for Knutton and Silverdale (2,8) presented some good arguments with respect to
Newcastle-under-Lyme wards, but it is further afield where I see the problems
with the Labour proposals occurring. I
find it interesting that people other than me, Gareth Snell included, look at
wheelie bins when they are out and about, to observe which council area they
are in! Mr Taylor from Westlands,
(1,54) for Western Seabridge and Clayton residents’ association, does not see
any cohesion between Westlands, Clayton and Seabridge and Fulford, Swynnerton,
Barlaston and Stone. Of course he is
commenting against the BCE initial proposals but this may mean he would not
favour at least 2 out of my 3 suggestions. Mr Webb (1,71) and Ms Jocelyn Morrison
(2,82), from Werrington, spoke in favour of Werrington being included in a
Stoke-on-Trent constituency, which I find rather surprising.
The
Liberal Democrat proposals are fairly complicated and a bit messy, especially
in that they do not preserve the Staffordshire county boundary. Cllr Nigel Jones for Thistleberry (1,49)
speaking for the local Liberal Democrats, disagreed with the regional Liberal
Democrats and agreed with Labour. Cllr David Becket for Halmerend (2,13) reported residents being opposed to being in a constituency with Kidsgrove wards and Stoke-on-Trent North. I wonder if my proposal that includes Halmerend in a ‘West Staffordshire’ constituency with some Stoke-on-Trent South wards would be more acceptable? I have had some very interesting and
productive discussions with Cllr David Murray for Albrighton and Shifnal especially about the contentious
Stoke-on-Trent, Newcastle-under-Lyme and Stone area. The secondary consultation comments from the Liberal Democrats will be good to see in publication in due course.
Independent councillors also gave representations. Cllr Andrew Hart for Biddulph North (2,86) reported being very involved in residents’ associations, who support the BCE proposals and do not want to be part of Stoke-on-Trent. Cllr Jim Davies for Biddulph North (2,87) agreed. Cllr William Day for Caverswall (2,24) reported consulting widely with residents and supported the BCE
proposal for Staffordshire Moorlands.
He said a previous proposal to take Werrington out had resulted in mass
protest and people would fight tooth and nail against any such proposal. He said “I don’t represent political
parties, I represent people.”
The
secondary consultation comments will be published by the BCE later in the year.
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